joe biden in august. and i remember when i learned that he picked joe biden. i was like really, joe biden. this is not -- this is a not-so -- guy. 30 years in the senate. he's almost seemed like everyone we were campaigning against. let me tell you that joe biden when he came in. i couldn't have liked him more. he was everything that you would think. he was no drama. the most unassuming interest to the campaign that we could have had for a guy who had the senate trappings. you almost didn't notice he came in. respect everyone. i think that's obvious, and there isn't a more bottom up kind of go than joe biden. he integrated so well in to the campaign. he was part of us, you heard how, you know, there were divisions within the mccain twain between mccain camp and the palin camp. we didn't have a camp. right, you could see the value of that kind of chemistry him coming inspect. had he came in, he actually -- he wanted to meet the staff. and he said you could tell how excited he was. he said, you know, -- you know, you guys are the ones that kicked my ass on the c